Mothers have this uncanny knack for cutting each other down. “I can’t believe you demand-feed.” “Are you going to breastfeed forever?” “I would never put my child in day care.” On the list goes and, more and more, mothers feel like they’re doing the wrong things with their children.
I had never heard of demand-feeding or scheduling before I got pregnant. I suppose I’d always been around schedulers and just thought that’s what everyone did, but as I read in preparation for a new baby, I discovered that certainly isn’t the case, and that the arguments between the two camps are often mean-spirited and don’t do a very good job of helping you make a decision. Which ever decision you make, someone’s going to make you feel like it’s the wrong one.
For those of you who have never had the joy of being involved in a demand-feeding vs. scheduling debate, I offer a brief overview:
Demand-feeding dictates that an infant should be fed around-the-clock, or “on demand,” whenever the child indicates hunger. Often, demand-feeders have a “family bed,” (allow the child to sleep with them at night, which only makes sense considering how often he has to eat!). Children who are demand-fed may eat every 2-3 hours, or every half-hour, depending on his/her desires.
Scheduling, or “parent-directed feeding,” dictates that a child can be taught to eat on a schedule, or, at least, at generally the same time every day. Schedulers do not put their children on a rigid schedule beginning at birth, as medical evidence is clear that newborns need to eat whenever they indicate hunger. After the first few weeks, however, the mother begins to guide her child into a schedule, beginning with feedings every 2 1/2 to 3 hours, and eventually (around the 6-7 month mark), every 4 hours. Schedulers usually have the child sleeping in his own crib after around 8 weeks or so, once the child drops the “middle of the night” feeding.
There are those who “abuse the systems.” There are demand-feeders who (if you’ll pardon the phrase) shove a boob in the child’s mouth every time he peeps. There are schedulers who refuse to feed until “it’s time,” and, thus, leave the child screaming until the clock says it’s meal time. I’m not talking about these people.
I’m referring to those who use either demand-feeding or scheduling as a guide to get through the first year.
I’m a scheduler. For the first few weeks after my son was born, I fed him when he showed signs of hunger. He was able to eat around-the-clock in the womb, and it was my job to make sure he got to keep that up until he was adjusted (at least somewhat!) to life outside the womb. After two weeks or so, I began to slowly guide him into eating every 2 1/2 to 3 hours. This was not difficult as, because I had been ensuring that he was getting “full feedings” at each sitting, he naturally was able to go 2 1/2 to 3 hours between feedings. My job, at this point, was easy. After a month I began feeding him at 7 am every day. This was our first attempt at getting him on a “schedule.” We slowly worked our way to eating at 7am, 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm, 10pm, and once in the middle of the night. By 9 weeks, he dropped the “middle of the night” feeding on his own. He just slept right through it! We stayed on this schedule until he was four months old.
At around four months, I began having to wake him up during the day to eat. We then went to a 3 1/2 hour schedule. He ate at 7am, 10:30am, 2pm, 5:30pm, 8pm, and 11pm. I then moved the 11pm feeding back to 10pm, and he didn’t even notice! At around six months we moved to a 4 hour schedule. I gradually moved his morning feeding (by 15 minutes every few days) until he was eating at 8am each morning. He then began eating at 8am, 12pm, 4pm, and 8pm. In order to keep up my milk supply, I ended up having to add a 10pm feeding, even though he was sleeping 11 1/2 hours at night.
Thankfully, my lactation consultant is a schedule-supporter. It is hard trying to find breastfeeding advice that goes along with scheduling. I can’t help but wonder if breastfeeding support groups were more open to scheduling, that more women would stick with breastfeeding longer. Come on, how many people do you know are able to handle being a 24-hour buffet for a year or more? Scheduling certainly helps with being able to go out without your child and – praise the lord!!! - to sleep for 8 hour stretches!
One of the major misconceptions about those who schedule are that we are persistent clock-watchers who starve our children if it’s not “time” to eat. I’m sure some people do this, but I find it appalling. The vast majority of schedulers use the clock as a guide. Once your child adjusts to the schedule, however, you can actually set the clock by your child! My little one wakes up when it’s time to eat and starts rubbing his eyes around 15 minutes or so before nap time. I don’t set the schedule anymore – he does. It just so happens that he gets hungry at 8am, 12pm, 4pm, 8pm, and 10pm and sleepy at 10am, 2pm, 6pm, and 8:30pm. Viola! I think it’s funny that my demand-feeding friends are amazed when I go lay my little one down for a nap and he goes to sleep. No fuss, no crying, no food…he just goes to sleep, because he knows it’s time to sleep!
Look, I’m not a demand-feeder. I would absolutely pull my hair out if I was still having to get up at night to feed my little one. I would be a bad mother if I tried to demand-feed because I would be sleep-deprived and resentful – my life would be chaotic. I am equally certain that there are plenty of demand-feed moms who would be horrible mothers if they tried to schedule. I think this is what we need to remember – none of us are hurting our children, whether we demand or schedule-feed. My child is healthy, well-adjusted, and an absolute dream to be around. My demand-feed mommy friends have children who are almost
as wonderful as mine.
What I don’t understand is why we can’t debate the pros and cons of scheduling vs. demand-feeding without implying that the other party is hurting her child. Why are moms so hard on each other?
Thank you so much for this post. I have a 9 week old daughter and we have been feeding on a schedual successfully since birth. I am worried about my milk supply and upon searching the internet for advice, i have found sooo many negative information sites about schedualing your baby. I really love our schedual, and so does our daughter, but am prepared to do whatever it takes to keep my supply up and breastfeed for as long as I can. Any advice?
I have a great lactation consultant who supports scheduling, and she helped me through the rough spots. My son is now 11 1/2 months old and we’re still breastfeeding!
As long as your baby is gaining and acting satisfied, there is no need to worry about your supply. I didn’t start having supply issues until my son was around 7 months old and then I KNEW something was going on! He tugged and tugged at the breast and cried after the feeding…it was clear that he wasn’t getting
enough. I’ve been taking fenugreek since then, and, as I mentioned in the post, I added a 10pm feeding, and all has been well. This isn’t necessarily going to be a problem for everyone. There are some who think that moms with smaller chests are less likely to be able to go 12 hours per night without a feeding, and this has proven true in my experience. My “more well-endowed” friend has never had a supply problem, even when going 12 hours at night without a feeding.
Although controversial, “On Becoming Babywise” is an encouraging book for the schedule-feeder. “Secrets of the Baby Whisperer” is good, too.
Support is super important, too! I am blessed with a friend who has successfully schedule-fed 4 children and she has been my “go-to gal.” Feel free to email me (jamaoliver@gmail.com) if you need tips or just someone to listen!
My daughter is almost four months old (16 weeks) And we are following the babywise schedule. But I was just wondering, now that she’s getting older she wants to stay up for longer periods of time, but in allowing her to do so her naps (wake times/nap times) are getting less and less predictable. So were trying to re-arrange her schedule so it fits what she needs right now. Were just having trouble figuring out how to do that while still keeping the predictability of babywise.
Her schedual right now it
8am feeding
8-9:45 wake time
9:45-11:30 nap time
11:30am feeding
11:30-1:15 wake time
1:15-3:00 nap time
3pm feeding
3-4:45 wake time
4:45-6:30 nap time
6:30-8 nap time
10pm feeding than right to bed
I sometimes have to wake her up out of her naps. But most of the time she wakes up early- I let her cry for five minutes. Go in burp her (sometimes she burps, most of the times she doesn’t) than put her back down to see if she goes back to sleep. (sometimes does- sometimes doens’t)
I know the goal with PDF is the four hour, four feedings schedule. But what does that look like with wake times and naps and all that? And is a four months old too young for that?
Thanks for your help whatever feedback you can give me!
Megan
Megan,
At four months, my son went to a 3 1/2 hour feeding schedule, which is what it looks like you’re doing. We didn’t move to a four hour schedule until 6 months, which is normal for PDF. Depending on her weight, I probably wouldn’t put her on a four hour schedule quite yet.
You probably need to make her naps shorter each time around. At this age (four months) my little one was taking 1 1/2 hour naps. So, his schedule looked like this:
7am feeding
7am – 9am wake time
9am – 10:30am nap
10:30am feeding
10:30am – 12:30pm wake time
12:30pm-2pm nap
2pm feeding
2pm-4pm wake time
4pm-5:30pm nap
5:30pm feeding
5:30pm – 8pm wake time
8pm feeding (bedtime right after)
11pm feeding
He was awake for quite a while in the evening, but did really well. I also clustered the feedings in the evening (as you can see, they don’t match up with the every 3 1/2 hour feedings), just to keep his bedtime the same.
This schedule worked really well for us until he was ready to go to the four hour schedule at 6 months. The only change that we had to make was at around 5 months, he was waking up early/not sleeping as well at night; so I cut each nap by 15 minutes, making his nap times 1 hour and 15 minutes long.
Thank you very much. That was extremely helpful. And just for curiosity sake. What did you four hour schedule look like? For future reference.
Megan
P.S. Thanks again!
Megan,
You’re quite welcome!
When we started our four hour schedule, it looked like this:
8am feeding
8am-10am wake time
10am-12pm nap
12pm feeding
12pm-2pm wake time
2pm-4pm nap
4pm feeding
4pm-6pm wake time
6pm short nap (30 minutes to an hour, depending on his mood)
8pm feeding then straight to bed
10pm feeding
He eventually dropped the 6pm catnap on his own…I would put him down and he just wouldn’t go to sleep. Other than that, we stayed on this schedule from 6 months until just a couple of weeks ago (he is now 13 months old), when he dropped to one nap a day.
We’re expecting another baby in September, by the way, and I’ll definitely be doing the same schedules with my next baby. It worked so well with the first!!!
Happy belated birthday to your son! And congradulations on another baby! Girl or boy?
I agree about Parent Directed Feeding being the way to go. (for our family anyways)
Megan,
Thank you!
We’ll find out the sex sometime around May…I can’t wait!
Hi Jama! Hope everything is going well with your pregnancy.
I have another question about PDF.
Just recently my daughter has been waking up earlier and earlier each day. We start our day at 8am, and about a week ago she’s been waking up 20 minutes earlier each day. And this morning she woke up at 630am! I thought it could possibly be that their is too much light in her room and it wakes her up in the morning. But she naps with that much light during the day.
Megan –
How much is she napping during the day?
What time does she go to bed?
How old is she now?
Finally, just she stay in bed until 8am, even though she’s awake earlier, or do you have to go ahead and get her up?
-Jama
She’s taking three naps. 2 hour and half naps, and one half an hour nap.
Elliot is 22weeks old. And she goes to sleep at 8pm.
She does stay in bed until 8am, but I usually go and give her her soother if she starts to, not really cry, but talk loudly. haha.
She was much better today after I put thicker curtains on her windows. But still woke up at 730 and talked to her herself until I got her up at 8.
Megan,
You know, I’d probably just let her be. James goes through phases where he wakes up early for a bit, and then sleeps super late (like, 9:30!). As long as she’s happy hanging out in her crib until 8am, my guess is that she’ll eventually decide to start sleeping later again.
She’s not sleeping an exceptional amount during the day, nor going to bed really early at night…it’s probably just a phase. Pray for the phase that causes her to sleep later in the morning! That’s a fun one…
-Jama
Haha! I can’t wait for that one!
Thank you!
This is such great advice! I have a baby that is 10 days old and have been trying to figure out how to slowly move over to schedule feedings, mainly because I feel it will keep me more sane as I return to work at the end of 10 weeks.
When did you start gradually moving to scheduled feedings and how did you do it??? Any help would be appreciated!
Emily,
My first was naturally feeding around every 2 1/2 to 3 hours from the beginning, so, at about 2 weeks old I started working on getting him on a schedule. I picked what time I wanted to start feedings in the morning – for me it was 7am – and started working from there. If he fed at, say, 2am, I would wake him up at 4:30am or 5am for a feeding, and then again at 7am for a feeding so we could start our day (if I didn’t wake him up at 4:30 or 5, he might have decided to sleep until 6, and then not be ready for a feeding at 7!).
So, beginning with a 7am feeding, our goal was to feed at 7am, 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm, 10pm, and then once during the night. It was a process…sometimes he was HUNGRY at 9:30, which altered our day a bit, but we would adjust and try again the next day. I can’t remember exactly how long it took to get on that consistent schedule, but it was maybe only a couple of weeks.
So, the best thing to do it just pick what time you want to start feedings in the morning and start from there. Don’t starve your poor child, of course, but if he/she startes acting hungry at 9:30am, and your schedule says don’t feed until 10am, waiting 15 minutes isn’t going to kill him/her and will likely allow you to stay on your schedule.
Good luck, and let me know if you have questions!!
-Jama
Hello I have a 6 1/2 week old son that I am trying to switch from a “demand feeder” to a “schedule feeder”. I have read the book babywise and I get the concept, but I feel like I am failing at it. The book makes it sound so easy. I have 2 1/2 year old daughter whom I fed on demand ( b/c I didn’t know any different) when she was this age, and she eventually got on a schedule. By 6 weeks she was sleeping 11-5, which was great….but I am having trouble the second time around. Any advice????
Are you starting at the same time every day? That’s the best way to get started, and I don’t think it’s mentioned in the book. I decided to start our day at 7am so, no matter what time my boys woke during the night to eat, we would have a feeding at 7am. So, even if he woke up for a feeding at 5am, we would feed again at 7am. After that, my goal was to feed at 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm, and 11pm. Give or take 15 minutes or so, this was pretty easy to maintain. The most important thing, though, is to always have your first feeding at the same time every single day. Let me know how it goes!
-Jama
Hi, I am a schedule feeder, too, and I’m confused about how the morning start time works. Right now, my 11 week old still eats about 1 time per night (night being between 10:30PM and 6:30 AM. He hasn’t quite gotten to where he drops his night feed, but he’s getting closer. The way he is getting closer is that he is sleeping a longer time between his 10:30PM feed…so instead of feeding 10:30P, 2:30A, 6:30A, he is feeding 10:30P to 3:30 or 4:30P. Those times aren’t so bad, but he doesn’t really want to eat at 6:30 if he ate at 4:30 and earlier this week, he went until 5:30A and wanted to eat…and he certainly wasn’t going to eat at 6:30 after that. How do you deal with that? Also, occasionally, he’ll wake up at like 5:30 or 6 to wake up for good…if I let him play alone in his crib until the official wake time, doesn’t that mean that the 6:30-9:30 cycle will be off since he will likely get sleepy very soon after eating since he’s already been up for a while? These are questions I can’t seem to find answers to! Maybe I”m too obsessive??
Judy,
My second son did the same thing for just a few nights before he started sleeping all the way through. One thing you could do would be to push his last feeding of the night to 11pm. I still do an 11pm “dream feed…”
Even feeding him a bit later at night, though, there have been a few times when my little one would wake up at 5 or 5:30am to eat. When he did this, I would basically give him a “snack” to tide him over until 7am. I wouldn’t give him a full feeding…just enough to calm him until time to get up.
As for him waking at 5:30 or 6am, I would just go with the flow. If he’s happy until time to eat, great! Feed him and then just put him down when he gets tired, even if that’s a bit earlier than your “scheduled” nap time. Everyone has a natural clock that you sometimes can’t “fix,” no matter how hard you try. So, if he’s happy getting up that early, and it’s not too much of a strain on you or your family, just go with it. Let him play in his crib, feed him at the regular time, and put him back to bed for that morning nap when he needs it. My first son has always been an early riser. He would wake up and play in his crib until I came and got him for breakfast…he’ll be 2 next week and still does this! He eventually adjusted to “my” schedule and didn’t have to go down for his morning nap any earlier, even though he was waking early in the morning.
Just be flexible. My first son was very different than my second and, even though we’re following the exact same feeding schedule, the sleep schedules differ just a bit. Even though you’ll be able to get those feedings on a predictable schedule, naps will depend to a certain extent on your baby’s natural sleep needs and internal clock…you can only adjust sleep by so much!
-Jama
Sorry…another quick question! Did your son just always naturally have awake times and nap times that equalled your set scheduled cycle times? My son is currently in a phase where he can only stay away about 1 hr 15 min to 1 hr 30 min (including feed time) before he starts to get fussy, but he won’t take naps that last very long…right now, I’m happy if I can get a 30 min nap out of him. Technically, since we’re on a 3 hour cycle, he needs to sleep for 1-1/2 or more hours! I guess I just have a bad napper?
Judy,
Quite alright!
NO WAY did either of my sons have awake times that lined up with the schedule! It was something that had to be taught.
Does he wake up happy or fussy?
If he’s waking up fussy, he’s not getting enough sleep with those 30 minute naps, and I would actually try putting him down for a nap BEFORE he tells you he’s tired.
So, if it takes him 30 minutes to eat, and he’s getting grumpy 45 minutes after that, try putting him to bed 15 minutes earlier. My son actually just started taking 1.5 hour naps (he was sleeping for an hour and 45 minutes…), and he’s nearly 5 months old. If your son is only sleeping for 30 minutes, it could be that he’s going to bed over-tired, and needs to be put down earlier in order to take his full nap. It sounds counter-intuitive, but think about it…have you ever said, “I was so tired, I couldn’t sleep!”? Babies do the same thing…
So, try putting him down for his nap earlier and see how that works.
Jama